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		<title>By: GameSpot&#8217;s Ryan Davis quits as dagger-to-heart of longtime fans - VideoGamesBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>GameSpot&#8217;s Ryan Davis quits as dagger-to-heart of longtime fans - VideoGamesBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Davis has left GameSpot, as the Jeff Gerstmann GameSpot saga, or Gerstmann-gate, seems to have finally culminated in what longtime fans feared most. With [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GameSpot reviewer Alex Navarro third to leave website - VideoGamesBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>GameSpot reviewer Alex Navarro third to leave website - VideoGamesBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doubt Alex leaving is directly related to his friend Jeff being fired last year, since Alex showed up in the Points videos on the blog of Jeff Gerstmann is Still Alive. Hopefully [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] doubt Alex leaving is directly related to his friend Jeff being fired last year, since Alex showed up in the Points videos on the blog of Jeff Gerstmann is Still Alive. Hopefully [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gerstmann is still alive. GameSpot loses another veteran reviewer over journalistic ethics - VideoGamesBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Gerstmann is still alive. GameSpot loses another veteran reviewer over journalistic ethics - VideoGamesBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Gerstmann is Still Alive is the aptly titled blog of former GameSpot editor Jeff Gerstmann. I&#8217;m sure you remember the chaos that followed back in November 2007, after GameSpot fired editor Jeff Gerstmann because he didn’t score game reviews high enough. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Gerstmann is Still Alive is the aptly titled blog of former GameSpot editor Jeff Gerstmann. I&#8217;m sure you remember the chaos that followed back in November 2007, after GameSpot fired editor Jeff Gerstmann because he didn’t score game reviews high enough. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the majority but I mostly base my impression of games by watching stuff like On the Spot and playing the demos.  From there I have a very good idea of what the game will be like.  I only look at the video reviews for finding out about the game in a bit more detail.  The actual review and video reviews scores are pretty irrelavant to me.  Usually I have got the game by the time I read or watch the review.  I used to spend a resonable amount of daily time at gamespot but it just feels weird now.  The people made Gamespot not the games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the majority but I mostly base my impression of games by watching stuff like On the Spot and playing the demos.  From there I have a very good idea of what the game will be like.  I only look at the video reviews for finding out about the game in a bit more detail.  The actual review and video reviews scores are pretty irrelavant to me.  Usually I have got the game by the time I read or watch the review.  I used to spend a resonable amount of daily time at gamespot but it just feels weird now.  The people made Gamespot not the games.</p>
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		<title>By: supadupagama</title>
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		<dc:creator>supadupagama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you guys feel like hypocrites now? Much like the editors who this month complain about wanting to leave a stinking company, you&#039;re saying action should be taken or you&#039;ll leave or not pay them anymore. But much like the remaining review writers/personalities -- who have basically been warned to score games higher, make their tone more positive, or risk getting fired like Jeff -- you too will be on Gamespot next month pretending like nothing ever happened, simply by being there.

This sounds completely inane to me, how much fun would the David Letterman show be without David and just have the band and regular guests appearing? The show would die. What I&#039;m seeing right now is that Gamespot fans are already making up excuses to stick around, mainly because they don&#039;t have another big corporation to flee to that has the same features on their site, outside of maybe 1UP or IGN. I feel like if you have any sort of integrity about how you wish to be treated (instead of being kept in the dark like Gamespot has so poorly dealth with this situation by publicly ignoring you) then you&#039;ll leave the site permanently. Why? Because if review tones/scores can be influenced, so can previews, so can every other exclusive feature be spun around till management is happy with it and knows they&#039;ll make their advertisers happy by praising it more to get more advertiser deals. If you look at Penny Arcade, they first want to play every game an advertiser wants to advertise, if they think the game sucks, they won&#039;t accept their ad deals. On IGN they went as far as to make the two departments separate without communication. So it can be done. Even here on VGB, I have the right to decline an advertiser if I object to their game or the ad content. That&#039;s freedom of choice, and the second those editors accepted Jeff got fired over being honest but too negative in management&#039;s eyes, those same editors became tools of the company instead of writers free to say what they want. I wouldn&#039;t want to be in their shoes, they obviously have bills to pay and who else is going to pay them $60,000 a year to write about playing games? Still, their conscience isn&#039;t clear.

And for the record, neither Cnet nor Eidos had anything to do with this, it was the new Gamespot management, the people that run Gamespot that did this. And Eidos just did what any advertiser would do, you can&#039;t advertise a product and expect it to sell at the place where the owners are saying its crap. / Rant over! :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you guys feel like hypocrites now? Much like the editors who this month complain about wanting to leave a stinking company, you&#8217;re saying action should be taken or you&#8217;ll leave or not pay them anymore. But much like the remaining review writers/personalities &#8212; who have basically been warned to score games higher, make their tone more positive, or risk getting fired like Jeff &#8212; you too will be on Gamespot next month pretending like nothing ever happened, simply by being there.</p>
<p>This sounds completely inane to me, how much fun would the David Letterman show be without David and just have the band and regular guests appearing? The show would die. What I&#8217;m seeing right now is that Gamespot fans are already making up excuses to stick around, mainly because they don&#8217;t have another big corporation to flee to that has the same features on their site, outside of maybe 1UP or IGN. I feel like if you have any sort of integrity about how you wish to be treated (instead of being kept in the dark like Gamespot has so poorly dealth with this situation by publicly ignoring you) then you&#8217;ll leave the site permanently. Why? Because if review tones/scores can be influenced, so can previews, so can every other exclusive feature be spun around till management is happy with it and knows they&#8217;ll make their advertisers happy by praising it more to get more advertiser deals. If you look at Penny Arcade, they first want to play every game an advertiser wants to advertise, if they think the game sucks, they won&#8217;t accept their ad deals. On IGN they went as far as to make the two departments separate without communication. So it can be done. Even here on VGB, I have the right to decline an advertiser if I object to their game or the ad content. That&#8217;s freedom of choice, and the second those editors accepted Jeff got fired over being honest but too negative in management&#8217;s eyes, those same editors became tools of the company instead of writers free to say what they want. I wouldn&#8217;t want to be in their shoes, they obviously have bills to pay and who else is going to pay them $60,000 a year to write about playing games? Still, their conscience isn&#8217;t clear.</p>
<p>And for the record, neither Cnet nor Eidos had anything to do with this, it was the new Gamespot management, the people that run Gamespot that did this. And Eidos just did what any advertiser would do, you can&#8217;t advertise a product and expect it to sell at the place where the owners are saying its crap. / Rant over! <img src='http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SM2099</title>
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		<dc:creator>SM2099</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God... I hope Eidos crumbs down to the ground. Hope Jeff reapears somewhere... somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8230; I hope Eidos crumbs down to the ground. Hope Jeff reapears somewhere&#8230; somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Reeteshinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reeteshinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been visiting the site a lot lesser right now, didn&#039;t go whole Monday and till 8PM tuesday.

I didn&#039;t even care to click on the review of Tabula Rasa...  :sad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been visiting the site a lot lesser right now, didn&#8217;t go whole Monday and till 8PM tuesday.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even care to click on the review of Tabula Rasa&#8230;  <img src='http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: astrotriforce</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrotriforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Supa, at first I of course was as outraged as anyone regarding this sad, sad news about Jeff and I was ready to cancel my subscription and leave GameSpot for IGN (which still has a lot of it&#039;s old personalities).

But since then I have decided that I will stay with GameSpot, in part because (as some others have stated), there ARE other personalities working at GameSpot that I do like (although Jeff was one of my favorites) and it would be doing a disservice to them, when they had nothing to do with the firing of their comrad. And although I am angry at CNET . . . I really don&#039;t think that this anger should be leveled at GameSpot for the aforementioned reason.

These guys are just doing their job, they don&#039;t have anything to do with the whole corporatoration itself. 

I will however take reviews from GameSpot with a grain of salt now. Which is a sad turn of events, since I always thought GameSpot was one of the most trustful review sites, given that they tend to grade lower and the personalities who work there are trustworthy (or so I thought). 

I also am still proud of the various emblems I have on my profile and I would hate to give all that up just becuase of the unfortunate turn of events. However if all the personalities were to leave GameSpot and go somewhere else, then I wouldn&#039;t have any reason to visit the site outside of the large and active community where I keep one of my blogs. 

Thanks for the comments everyone! And I&#039;m  glad to hear that you guys were really looking forward to hearing our take on this whole situation. 

I just hope that lessons have been learned here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Supa, at first I of course was as outraged as anyone regarding this sad, sad news about Jeff and I was ready to cancel my subscription and leave GameSpot for IGN (which still has a lot of it&#8217;s old personalities).</p>
<p>But since then I have decided that I will stay with GameSpot, in part because (as some others have stated), there ARE other personalities working at GameSpot that I do like (although Jeff was one of my favorites) and it would be doing a disservice to them, when they had nothing to do with the firing of their comrad. And although I am angry at CNET . . . I really don&#8217;t think that this anger should be leveled at GameSpot for the aforementioned reason.</p>
<p>These guys are just doing their job, they don&#8217;t have anything to do with the whole corporatoration itself. </p>
<p>I will however take reviews from GameSpot with a grain of salt now. Which is a sad turn of events, since I always thought GameSpot was one of the most trustful review sites, given that they tend to grade lower and the personalities who work there are trustworthy (or so I thought). </p>
<p>I also am still proud of the various emblems I have on my profile and I would hate to give all that up just becuase of the unfortunate turn of events. However if all the personalities were to leave GameSpot and go somewhere else, then I wouldn&#8217;t have any reason to visit the site outside of the large and active community where I keep one of my blogs. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments everyone! And I&#8217;m  glad to hear that you guys were really looking forward to hearing our take on this whole situation. </p>
<p>I just hope that lessons have been learned here.</p>
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		<title>By: SM2099</title>
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		<dc:creator>SM2099</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to take this to the streets!!! This has yet to be a even bigger news then it is because the fat cats at CNET think gamers are nothing but whiny and weak nerds who will let other step over them. 

WE GOTTA TAKE A STANCE HERE AND NOW...

I really ain´t going to Gamespot for the reviews, etc anymore... they are now in the game industry... well corporate bitch Numero 1. Now no one will ever take them seriously again. A sad ending to what had become such a place. 

Maybe some new undeground indy game site will arise with Jeff or someone at the helm and continue on with the GS spirit... let it become a new body for the GS spirit to be reborn into... stronger then ever.

Glad to see VGB take a stance on this issue. Kinda worried for a minute there.

Shout out to Reeteshinator, Nuck Nuck and Po-Jo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to take this to the streets!!! This has yet to be a even bigger news then it is because the fat cats at CNET think gamers are nothing but whiny and weak nerds who will let other step over them. </p>
<p>WE GOTTA TAKE A STANCE HERE AND NOW&#8230;</p>
<p>I really ain´t going to Gamespot for the reviews, etc anymore&#8230; they are now in the game industry&#8230; well corporate bitch Numero 1. Now no one will ever take them seriously again. A sad ending to what had become such a place. </p>
<p>Maybe some new undeground indy game site will arise with Jeff or someone at the helm and continue on with the GS spirit&#8230; let it become a new body for the GS spirit to be reborn into&#8230; stronger then ever.</p>
<p>Glad to see VGB take a stance on this issue. Kinda worried for a minute there.</p>
<p>Shout out to Reeteshinator, Nuck Nuck and Po-Jo.</p>
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		<title>By: supadupagama</title>
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		<dc:creator>supadupagama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that was the last drop PxB, this whole situation is going from worse to worse.

Reeteshinator, the reason we didn&#039;t update last week is because back then it was still a rumor and we were waiting on gamespot/cnet to give a decent comment. When it turned out all they had to say was basically a &quot;no comment&quot; after firing the face of their website, it became pretty obvious all the stories from insiders from reliable sites were true.

Let me just state the obvious, our review ratings will not be influenced by our ads. I&#039;ve always told Astro that if either of us disagrees with the other, we can add a second opinion with a different rating to the review. Besides, we&#039;re independent bloggers, free to write what we want without a corporate structure breathing down on our necks. As this situation shows, it&#039;s much more important to have the trust of readers.

I am curious though, do any of you Gamespot regulars still visit? I mean a familiar face got kicked out without goodbyes after 11 years, it&#039;s almost criminal how little care that shows for the readers. And how can you still trust a site who&#039;s remaining reviewers just let themselves be walked all over by management?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that was the last drop PxB, this whole situation is going from worse to worse.</p>
<p>Reeteshinator, the reason we didn&#8217;t update last week is because back then it was still a rumor and we were waiting on gamespot/cnet to give a decent comment. When it turned out all they had to say was basically a &#8220;no comment&#8221; after firing the face of their website, it became pretty obvious all the stories from insiders from reliable sites were true.</p>
<p>Let me just state the obvious, our review ratings will not be influenced by our ads. I&#8217;ve always told Astro that if either of us disagrees with the other, we can add a second opinion with a different rating to the review. Besides, we&#8217;re independent bloggers, free to write what we want without a corporate structure breathing down on our necks. As this situation shows, it&#8217;s much more important to have the trust of readers.</p>
<p>I am curious though, do any of you Gamespot regulars still visit? I mean a familiar face got kicked out without goodbyes after 11 years, it&#8217;s almost criminal how little care that shows for the readers. And how can you still trust a site who&#8217;s remaining reviewers just let themselves be walked all over by management?</p>
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